she practiced law. >> when did you leave south dakota? >> moved away when i was 14 years old. i finished high school in southern illinois. it is where my father was on the faculty. then i went off to college, went to harvard, majored in economics, and came down to new york. i worked briefly for the founder and chairman of ecs. i have been at "fortune" virtually my entire career. i have been doing short reports that are carried on. the cbs radio stations, they are wonderful. these are small reports. everything on news radio is short. but i do a couple of those every day. >> allan sloan? >> i am the polar offer it -- opposite. i grew up in brooklyn, new york. i went to brooklyn college. it was free. my father worked primarily for a nonprofit organization. my mom worked before they were married. after my father -- she did business out of her home, our home, when the kids were there. that is what i learned how to count. i helped her. it was heavy clerical stuff. i got to the point where i did everything in my head because it was faster. there were no calculated. that has been a gr